Lightreavers Private Messages

[Lightreaver]

I found 2 messages of interest, 1 which will interest all. 2nd will only interest those from Al'akir.

Here goes number one :

Hello, as you may see from my post I have withdrawn my application. There are a couple of reasons for this, unlinked and entriely conincidental.

Firstly I witnessed 2 of your members, Gigus and Lickety (spelling might be wrong) dishing out what can only be described as verbal abuse to the Italian members of the Hakkar realm, on the LFG channel. Gigus in particular was very vocal and his language was very aggressive towards the italians. I have seen him do this before as I recognise the name. Lickety was just joining in but in all fariness was not as 'nasty' with it. I didnt think that this showed the guild in the best light tbh ( the guild name was mentioned one in LFG channel), and that gave me second thoughts (though in all fairness it is my first negative experience of Arisen, all other encounters have been positive).

Secondly my old guild asked me to rejoin, and tbh I missed alot of the people from there, it seems when you leave a guild its a lot harder to socialise without guild chat. I therefore re-joined them this afternoon.

Please accept my most sincere apologies if I have wasted your time or caused offense. This was never my intention and I hope you won't hold it against me if we run into each other in game.

Best Regards,

Gubb


That was the first, tbh Gigus may be loud but its not stopping people from joining. I think Gubb's is just being stuck up old fart and acting far too mature for a game like this.

Anyways, for those of you from Al'akir, this is from Kranzak about that "Jasonf" guy in the recruitment thread a while ago:

Sorry bout what i said in the recruitment thread but i've seen this happen before and i just don't want this guild to be ruined because of it. Sorry if i sound like an elitist prick some of the time but the problem here is that by recruiting 60's you are keeping the people who have been with the guild for longer from raiding for even longer.
And as for ballcoth i think normally he would've replied normaly with some witty remark but he had a shitty day yesterday if i'm correct as he was whining in guild chat. And i have sent him an apology mail to hopefy sort things out with him.

Also i may HAVE to leave this guild. Now i love this guild and i love my night elf char but the problem is that it's difficult for me to have to adjust from the 'big raiding guild' attitude to that of a 'smaller guild' because the way people behave is a hell of alot different in bigger guilds to that of smaller guild people. Now this is DEFINETLY NOT a goodbye message it's just that this is going to be thought about me for a bit to weigh up my options etc.




Dont know what to say about this, i used to think he was a really nice guy, but now i htink he's just playing for the epics, such a waste of a good person. Now he just annoys the shit out of me .

[Siph]

I think we should take a talk to Gigus. It is bad rep for us if he continues to have that aggressive attitude towards ITAs.

[Lightreaver]

We all know what gigus is like. Tbh all we need to say is just keep it out of the LFG channel. Cause thats teh reason why people are getting annoyed etc

[snowdon]

Much anger there is in gigus. I think we need to take his ITA abuse more seriously as it could be geniueinly discouraging ppl from joining the guild and not just the Itas. /agree with siph a talk with him would be good. And tbh the itas sometimes overreact when gigus says some things that other ppl may not find offensive

Anyway Back in 2 days Woot!

[Shortbread]

darkreaver said:

Sorry bout what i said in the recruitment thread but i've seen this happen before and i just don't want this guild to be ruined because of it. Sorry if i sound like an elitist prick some of the time but the problem here is that by recruiting 60's you are keeping the people who have been with the guild for longer from raiding for even longer.
And as for ballcoth i think normally he would've replied normaly with some witty remark but he had a shitty day yesterday if i'm correct as he was whining in guild chat. And i have sent him an apology mail to hopefy sort things out with him.

Also i may HAVE to leave this guild. Now i love this guild and i love my night elf char but the problem is that it's difficult for me to have to adjust from the 'big raiding guild' attitude to that of a 'smaller guild' because the way people behave is a hell of alot different in bigger guilds to that of smaller guild people. Now this is DEFINETLY NOT a goodbye message it's just that this is going to be thought about me for a bit to weigh up my options etc.

In other words, 'raiding people are better than smaller guild people, because we're better players, and I can't adjust to your crapness with my swelling head'. He's attempted to word it differently, but all he wants is to look down on people with his epics, go him.

[Culski]

Well I think Gubb wrote a mature and composed message there, fyi light, gigus IS offensive, unless you know him ofc then you see he's actually not only a half-decent player but a nice guy.

Thing is a % of the server (those that aren't italian anyway!) aren't going to want to get to know him, most mature players are likely to think like Gubb, if I didn't know anyone in arisen as I do I wouldn't want to join either.

I've lost my rag at gigus before, officially there isn't anything we can do about the server population and I think we should avoid confrontations that involve swearing and racism, any disagreement on spamming etc that is conducted without either of those two and I feel that gigus won't get himself banned (again) and give us a bad rep.

Just to clarify, the second message was from Kranzak?
Kranzak is so far up his own arse you can just about see his feet.

Raiding guilds are not some cloned entity and if I had to listen to him waffle I wouldn't stay

If Kranz says he might have to leave, wish him luck please, it's not a major loss imo ^^

We aren't a small guild anymore, we aren't quite a raid guild either, we are making a transition where we need to keep a close eye on how the guild behaves and how we react.

I wasn't too happy with how Redemp was badgered out but the night he left I got the impression he had been spoken to privately already.

Lets try to keep the guild open and friendly whilst retaining a tight leash on how we move forward!

[Lightreaver]

I wrote the post when i was tired, but yeah must, i see your points. A talking with gigus might be the best approach.

The second post was from Kranzak yeah, i found it kind of funny really, he made it look like i cared if he left or not lol

Edit - Btw these messages are meant to be private, so dont go blurting it out in Guild chat

[Siph]

Has anyone talked to gigus, our should I do it?

[Endy]

His acount is still being sorted after the whole thing about items going missing.

[Shortbread]

I spoke to him about it just now, he just laughed, so maybe it didn't go in, lol