Arisen Evolution

[Satura - Allexia]

Hello fellow guildies,

There is some talk about expanding arisen, As many of us are dinging or close to dinging 60. we soon be able to ubrs/zg at least. But still we got some issues that need dealing with, as last quickened guild meeting showed us.

So i decide that this might be a good idea of making a list and point of thing i think need changing or integration into arisen.

Hench the Evolution.

[1.1 Member issues]
Well Its not really stated afaik in any fact book or something like that, but were currently kicking any members who have been offline for more then a month WITHOUT letting us know a reason.
The kick date is 2 weeks for ppl on minion(trail) status ( which in essence means they haven't been on-line once during they're trail).

[1.2 Promotions]
We could come up for a regular date for promoting ppl from minion(trail) to member. because some ppl tend to be on trail forever, and its good to have a little consistensity.

[1.3 recruitment]
currently we having ppl who want to join but are out of the lvl range of our current members ( ex. most of us are 30+).
I don't think we should make an minimum of lvl require for arisen. As that spoils the social flavor we want to have in the guild. In the end well all ding 60 anyways.

As for member increase, recruitment is down a bit, if we want to attract more members we need to promote the guild again.


[2.0 Guild promotion]
Like all TV arisen needs commercials. Well maybe not commercials but something that set us apart from other guild which makes ppl join us. We could promote ourselves in various ways.

But the foremost thing we should do is get some events organized again, Its been a while and was always good fun, thinking back how we raided tirisfall at lvl 14-20 makes me tingle

Other things include changing our website/forum. make some posts on WoW-EU forums and party with non guildies and make friends outside arisen and general being a nice/kind player.

[3.0 Guild media]
Ok we got our forum running, and were having the same website since January, it looks soo freaking awesome but its just a teasing screen shot atm. I'd rather have some not so uber temporarily site where we can read guild-news. Event dates general announcements etc etc.

Imo the forum could do with another theme/color. Maybe change the background pic and make a picture contest for it??

[4.0 Arisen guide]
We got some good guides. But i think we would benefit from a general guide for arisen all the new players should read, that has all the info for getting ready for the guild. As how to set up GEM, social behavior, posting, ranking systems whatever.

[5.0 two weekly mini meeting]
Just a suggestion here, we could make a once per 2 weeks mini meeting where we introduce new players, promote others and make announcements on how the guild is going, or we could make a arisen news paper post/ website page, what include above named like information

well I'm out of idea's for now. Its time for a bit of wow now!

[Lightreaver]

Superb Post Sat

Agree with everything you've wrote, lets get another random raid going ;D

[Natsuki]

yeah, when I've gotten some sleep


zzzzzzzz

[trusetyven]

Nice work . i think this should be a Root line 2 follow. cus we cant start Imba talkin and Overpower other members. its fine that officers are officers and Gm and co Gm is what it is -
have seen some practice of unfairnes, no need 2 rip up in the past just lets look forward ..

i agree very mutch 2 this new law that Naty has writen ,)

and for the last thing - We are all Equal.

[trusetyven]

err ment jo Sat .. seems that nat is evrywere << -

[Lightreaver]

Tbh an officer is only to keep the guild control while a Co-GM is absent or to arrange fun events. Other than that they're a normal member, if they ninja we'd treat them exactly the same way as a normal member.

I don't know why people get so wound up about the ranks, after all they're just a name. But if people feel that having officers makes them feel unequal, try having only 3 Co-GM's running the guild only. Way too much pressure on the Co-Gm's and having officers makes the running of the guild much more smoother.

[Shortbread]

If you head over to www.thisisruss.com and click the arisen site link, thats my current work for coursework. If you think its good enough you can use it as the main site when its finished - but I understand if you prefer una's. I could arrange something with una to create a seperate account regarding a page to slot into the iframe news. That way anybody we trust can be handed a password and add in news whenever they see fit. The site in that link is just the one page design (as I'm still working on the look and feel of it), but I'm adding some interesting new features to it soon.

Una - Is it possible to create a news submitting form on your server? I'm guessing its possible, it could be used to change the iframe only, leaving the rest of the site untouched.

[joims]

nice layout, dont like the colours as much though and everything is small, harldy anyone uses 1024 768 ?? make it bigger

i do liek the hit couner how did you do that in flash?

[Shortbread]

the hit coutner isn't flash lol, its just a php script (given from una) the images use css its called lightbox.

[Haxen]

try to Valign=center the website, that will put it in the middle, maybe lose the big thick border and try thinner ones?

Colours do need a change, try Grey's, Red's, Dark Blue's.
Among the best for websites.

Dark or light Grey bgcolor.

Looking very good though, like the button which makes the iframe move up and down, general layout is nice.

Good job.

Hax

[Ballcoth]

Nice job Satura/Haksaw, I agree with ALL ideas and I strongly beleive that we can become THE alternative for All English Speaking players of Hakkar (As I said on the official forum thread).

If I had more time I would create some sort of Photoshop image featuring all Arisen Chars...something with style but unfortunatly I find it Hard to have time for playing, so creating that image would be rather difficult.

[joims]

wait itll we have a nice lump of epix 60's and then doa all guild meet,

find somewhere, go up there, and take a massive screenshot,

then bannerinate it

[Culski]

darkreaver said:

Tbh an officer is only to keep the guild control while a Co-GM is absent or to arrange fun events. Other than that they're a normal member, if they ninja we'd treat them exactly the same way as a normal member.

I don't know why people get so wound up about the ranks, after all they're just a name. But if people feel that having officers makes them feel unequal, try having only 3 Co-GM's running the guild only. Way too much pressure on the Co-Gm's and having officers makes the running of the guild much more smoother.

I'll jump in here with my copious amount of guild management knowledge

2-3 GM's is almost a minimum for any mid sized guild (15-25 active members), last time I met up with Una he asked me if I often got whispers for complaints because he was surprised at how busy you end up being

Officers ARE a step above regular members but not in some sort of elite way, it's work within the game, every large successful raid guild in pretty much any MMO succeeds because of the devotion of officers/GM's.

Providing they treat guild members fairly and with respect they deserve a lot of respect for providing a safe haven for gaming fun, be it XP, PvP or just having a laugh doing some foolishly suicidal raid to crossroads

I've always felt that people who put in a lot of effort deserve to come ahead a little in terms of rewards, officers or not. They are the backbone of a guild, active warriors who adequtely serve a tanking role ought to get tank loot first for example. Losing lotto to a very casual player who only turns up to less than half of a guilds raid is a bit of a sting imo.

At least pre-60 it's worth remaining true to the principle of strengthening the guild so that when a guild is ready to do MC DKP come into play, which sorts out the men from the orcs!

Btw I'm coming back next month, going to be hard to get up to the standard of the legend that is Mustski but I love druids <3

[hakar]

nice threat

[Raine]

Yay - Return of Musty. Hoo-ha.